Whistle, Whistle Gallery, Whistle Museum, brass,antique,vintage,unique,rare,old,horn,hoof,antler,silver,copper,Victorian,bosun,boatswain,boson,ship,dog,cycling,bicycle,sports,metal,ward,auld,round,escargot,beaufort,fire,fire brigade,police,scout,boy scout, girl scout,constabulary,asylum,DeCourcy,Barrall,Yates,Hudson,acme,emca,J Hudson,Dowler,Stevens,Bent and Parker,B&R,Colsoff,Johnson,1910,1911,1912,1913,1914,1915,1916,1917,1918 broad arrow,air,german,French,Buenos Aires,hunting,patent,patented,signal,hospital,taxi,train,railway,referee,taxicab,military,dress,silver,double,siren,button,general service,hallmarked,skeleton,swiss,bell,pea,city,city whistle,call,thunderer,cork,speaking tube,heavy,knop,mouthpiece,tube,mcdonald,guant,auld,black,cyclone,J H & Co,pringle,alpha,Liverpool,Birmingham,kingpewter,brittania,registered,manufacturer

051 Samuel Auld – Part Two, Rounds

Spotlight > Specific Manufacturer > United Kingdom > Auld > 051

 

The large amount of information covering Samuel Auld and Company whistles has created the need to be recorded in two parts. Escargot whistles that were registered in 1890 comprise part one. Part two is dedicated to round whistles, circa 1877 to 1907.

The rounds in themselves will include two parts A and B. Part A will be the heavy standard rounds commonly seen with round knops . Part B will be heavy rounds rarely seen with pillar tops. Pillar top Auld round whistles have not as yet been duly recorded and studied. Here will be presented some original identification and comparisons for the collector and students of rare whistles.

PART A – ROUND TOPS

Stamps are seen that confuse collectors when they see ‘MAKER’ coupled with a distributor name — but also merely stamped with names such as:

L. Plunkett
J. McFarlane
J. Christie
A.Marshall
J.Reid

There was a curious practice of stamping MAKER next to a distributer, not reserved to Auld. ( please note Beech/Auld in part one also ) However stamping a distributer name was quite common.

In manufacturing these heavy round whistles which were drilled out from solid rod, a characteristic window in an oval shape emerged and became a hallmark of Auld and Company, thus setting a standard that would follow them and others —  the nickname as Auld ‘type’ windows.

Three other companies ( i.e. Hudson, Ward and DeCourcy ) would use this feature. There are some rounds that defy identification using this feature and there may well be other makers involved.

The ring around the knop is known to have been used not only by Auld, but also by Yates, Linegar, DeCourcy, Barrall, Dixon and perhaps others which make it less useful for identification.

Auld utilized two kinds of fipples. Most models had two holes, some utilized one straight edge.

auld round 001

To date a metal fipple has not been identified with an Auld round . In fact, only one Auld 'type' window round whistle has been found here with a metal fipple.

All others in this article have wooden fipples. The round pictured below to the right has the metal fipple.

auld round 002

Auld rounds came in four sizes. Perhaps this was on purpose, but more likely due to the handmade manufacturing. There are some that fall outside of these four.

auld round 003

Some have square shoulders; most have rounded ones as seen below.

auld round 004 auld round 005

In 1907 when Hudson purchased Auld’s stock they started at some point to make their own rounds with Auld’s name stamped on them. They can be recognized by the short pillar top. We have found them in two sizes.

auld round 006

Alfred DeCourcy also made rounds that looked like Auld. He used the pillar top like Hudson’s,  but used  a bulky heavier pillar. He also utilized the oval window and even placed the stamp in the same place.

auld round 007

Take note of the Auld, Hudson and DeCourcy side by side. Can you pick out which is which ??

auld round 008

Now let’s look at some ‘Auld like’ rounds with the same oval windows. One has a curved window but Auld like knop.

The first three are unidentified, the first possibly Ward. The last two further below are probably DeCourcy,.

auld round 009

Not easy to discern is it ? That is the fun of hunting down the manufacturers and looking for clues to do so.

auld round 010

 

PART B – PILLAR TOPS

A remarkable and KEY whistle appeared a few years ago and lays the groundwork for this section of study.

Several things are of particular note.

First the pillar top. Previously attributed to Auld because of the window,  was still not for sure. However with Auld’s stamp it makes it a wonderful stepping stone to identifying others.

Second is the remarkable shape of a pillar top whistle in the stamp that cements the picture of this model.

Lastly the window is a change from the oval and now helps in that direction also of identification of other non oval rounds.

auld round 011 auld round 012

Then another appeared much more worn and smoother shaped, also stamped.

The pillar seems to be production oriented. However as we shall see it is not definitive.

auld round 013 auld round 014

Where we run into difficulty is the next series.

The first is brass and the seat of the pillar is applied. However the pillars in the two nickel silver whistles are all crafted as on piece from rod.

The first brass round matches the Auld’s. Let’s compare just those two.

The windows don’t match. The pillars are close. The windows definitely different.

auld round 015

Next we look at three nickel silver round with the tops all smooth and solid from tip to tip.

The cut of the second round ‘s window is quite rare and unique. However it would still fall within the arena of ‘Auld like’ windows.

auld round 016

Lastly we bring in Linegar and compare the classic Linegar top to an Auld pillar.

Quite similar and confusing at the same time and we ask who influenced who ?

auld round 017

For students of rare antique whistles the challenges are there. The end will be left open on the article as usual to allow for more discoveries.

auld round 018

 

TWG

Posted November 5, 2015

 Click to View

 

Return to Home


Hit Counter provided by short sale specialist