Identifying old whistles

OK , now to look inside.

What do you see ??

First gotta know parts…paaaaartition, say it outloud, paaaaaarttiton…well it is pretty plain, really just parts the two sides ( unless it is REALLY old, then there is none )

Perhaps it is cast and that helps to know.

Now perpenducular to that is the disc. Cast ? Machined ?? How is the disc attached to the paaaaaartition ??

This part is IMPORTANT !!!! — LOTS of notes to put on your tags, in your files – somewhere.

Then there are those pesky tines…pointing towareds the mouthpiece or away towards the top ??

What shapes are they ?? – very IMPORTANT once again !!!!

Record, record, record,,,

Do drawings if necessary….

 

Identifying old whistles

Of course the top of a whistle is just one thing.

Now as you move down measure the length of the body only

Record

take a picture of the STAMP and pay close attenton to the lettering…..

—– everything that it says, size of the font, the direction of the words, the position compared to the windows, curved words….

Record.

Now the windows. The height on the tube, their size, their shapes ( many times each window is different from the opposite window) . If the window is crooked. How skinny.

The diameter of the body.

Reecord.

What's left ???

 

ID that antique whistle

we're still on tube shaped whistles right ??

All the steps in place right ???

Now once again a 'comb over'……………………………………..and we are just looking at the tops…..

Cast top or two pieces, perhaps machined ??

Shape of the ring ??

Overlaps the sides or flat top ??

Raised ring or flush ??

Is the ring distictive to a certain maker ??

Same metal or different ??

Can you tell if the ring is Amercican, Australian, German, Chinese, India, Argentina  …..etc…..etc….

High quality or inexpensively made ??

Marked on the ring ??

Marked on the top cap ??

Hmmmm…..go on ??

how to research your whistles

so, step by step — I know it is mudane but let's trudge thru…

A tube shaped whistle comes in from the posta office..

1) unpackage and look for damage — amazing what gets thru from those well angled pictures….

2) Clean outside with a brass wire brush

3) Clean inside using dental tools, tweezers, etc to get the dirt out and any LARGE balls of lint !!!!

4) Measure the length and width

5) compare to others — carefully as it is easy to overlook inportant details of inside manufacturing. Try to identify manufacturer. Dates etc

6) record everything.

7) take pictures ( plural )

8) cut and crop pictures

9) put in appropriate files for easy retrieval

10) Store whistle itself

 

Whew , rest. —If you are really into whistles like us we do this in groups and when time is allowable. Typical day off right ??

Identifying whistles old and rare still…..

categories was the hint and you probably figutred it out ( wasn't very deep was it ? )

you have to have drawers in your tool box ———————— and file drawers go into your computor.

What's more is you have to be able to find your tools after filing them !!! So label those FILES well     🙂

Conclusions ??? >>>>>>>  there are picture drawers, note drawers, catalog drawers….and on and on.

So to be a real student of whistles

1) pictures
2) notes
3) files
4) OBSERVATIONS
5) lights, magnifying glasses
6) brishes, air cans, oh and vinegar ( white preferably )

Now we can get going ….

Identifying whistles old and rare still..

The reason tube shaped whistles are the best to discern the makers for is that when you get the principles down with these it is MUCH easier to transfer those abilities and techniques to all the others !!!

Yes, these are your learning grounds and learning cuuuuuurves …

So really work on GSWs and other police 'type' whistles…..

It is imperative to learn how to look inside at the 'guts' of a whistle. In a way the inside manufacuring process is like a fingerprint to help in identifying the maker. See how important it is ??

Now where did we leave off ???

Storage of your tools.

It doesn't do any good to store your tools in a tool box if you can never find them again does it ???

So how does one organize their tool box ?? How many drawers can you fit ?? What labels on them ???

hmmmmm….. these are most thought provoking concepts huh ??

I will give you a hint and not leave you hanging …. check out              ——- categories ——-

Identifying whistles old and rare still..

got to thinking, time to pause…………… whew, that feels good….

Breathe….

Now let's hold for a second and regroup. What kind of whistles are we talking about ?? —— TUBE shaped !!! You know Metropolitans, GSWs, TUUUUUBE shaped.

Yah, they are the long straight ones that can be 'cracked open like a book' and fugured out – who made them, when , rarity etc.

The round whistles are harder. The beauforts are also hard. The dual tubes, the escargots, the varietal…the list goes on and on doesn't it ??

So why all the talk about tube shaped whistles like they are the only whistles worth unraveling ?? Why put so much emphasis on these type whistles ??

Good question for tomorrow… Good question though… we all need reassurance, so good question…..

Identifying whistles old and rare still..

But you say I can only squint so much !!!! Yup, you are right, so a magnifying glass is next ( still on eyes though )

Then light is critical. And not just ANY light, but skinny light. You know, for hard to see places — like INSIDE those whistles.

You know what I REALLY want to get ?? A fiberoptic camera to go to my computer so I can probe inside those whistles and watch on the screeeeeeen yeah !!!!

Oh well, in the mean time ?? Pen light, mag and squinting.

 

What have we discussed so far ?? Have to measure those whistles carefully and look inside them. Gotta have light and records lest we forget….

store everything into your toolbox huh ??

more ???? Yup…..

Identifying whistles old and rare

tool number one for great detectives ??

Your eyes —

Gotta learn to see well if you are crack the case of who made your whislte.

For example:

How long is the whistle in question ??

Exactly ?? Really ?? Does it matter ???

OK your are already fired !!! Pack your bags, never to return…

Sorry, lost focus there. Yes of course it matters. DETAILS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So back to the length — needs to be down to the millimeter !!!

Makers stick to what works. So also with different models. Gotta look closely at the lenght, the width, how thick the metal is….really gotta use your eyes a LOT.

We'll get back to this….

Identifying whistles old and rare

Back to tool box….hmmmmm…..

Metaphors are very difficult to fit just right huh ??

How about your computer ?? Stores LOTS doesn't it ??

You can put things into compartments.

Comes in different sizes.

OK fine – that's it — your computer is your tool box for storing your tools of the trade — whistle detective…

Tool number one ??